[acb-hsp] affiliate growth

[Baracco, Andrew W]

I thought that at least you would have to be a member of the group that
you were representing, but I guess that's not the case.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf
Of Donna
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 1:15 PM
To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth

Well, to be honest I think the affiliate delegations this year were a
big joke. it seems that most affiliates didn't know when one member of
their delegation was representing another affiliate and even up until I
thinkit was Thursday morning affiliates were continuously changing their
delegate representation.  I wonder what this looks like to outsiders?
Lol.  Better to laugh then cry.  Smile.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
To: "Discussion list for ACB human service professionals"
<acb-hsp at acb.org>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth


> It was my understanding that Darian and Deanna were both leaving on 
> Wednesday, so unless they were able to find a volunteer, I would 
> imagine that HSP had no presence on the convention floor after that.  
> In our defense, I understand that the delegate from Iowa was actually 
> someone from California.  I am getting more and more the impression 
> that this convention was poorly attended in general.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On 
> Behalf Of J.Rayl
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:16 AM
> To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
> Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth
>
> Well-said, Donna, and I wholehearedly agree with you.  I can tell you,

> after my presentation which I thoroughly enjoyed, I was quite amazed 
> at how quickly people just left the call.  Compared to some friendly 
> interactive conversations of the past, this was quite a surprise and a

> change.
>
> Question: So, was ACB-HSP officially recognized or no this year?
>
> Jessie Rayl
> thedogmom63 at frontier.com
> www.facebook.com/Eaglewings10
> www.pathtogrowth.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna" <dwjsk34 at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion list for ACB human service professionals"
> <acb-hsp at acb.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:24 PM
> Subject: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth
>
>
> Hi All,
> I need to put a disclaimer at the beginning of this message because I 
> have some observations to make and I do not want anyone's feelings to

> be hurt by them.  So I warn you in advance that if you want to read 
> some honest thoughts and suggestions and you are willing to put your 
> feelings aside and listen objectively please  continue.  Otherwise 
> there is always the delete key.
>
> Let me state here that I like all the people who are in leadership 
> positions of this affiliate so please understand my words are meant to

> be constructive in nature.
>
> I think the issue we face as an affiliate is much bigger then just the

> convention.  There doesn't seem to be much  commitment  to the 
> organization by those in leadership positions and there is a definite 
> disconnect that has been going on for a long time among members.  When

> we had convference calls once a month members had an opportunity to 
> attend and listen to guest speakers or network with one another.  Now 
> conference calls are every other month and it is unclear as to which 
> Sunday night they actually take place since it seems as though such 
> trivial things as the Superbowl cause those in charge to change the 
> date.  the other thing I have noticed as it relates to conference 
> calls is that there seems to be an urgency for those who are in 
> leadership positions to hang up as soon as possible. It's like they 
> are only there out of obligation and as soon as they can finish their 
> duties they want to leave.  this has happened when we have had outside

> guest speakers and I must say that I was totally embarrassed by their 
> actions.  I was also embarrassed when listening on ACB radio to the 
> convention and during the most important days when it is almost 
> certainly probable that a roll call vote for affiliates would be 
> needed the individual who was  so vocal during the week was not 
> present.  Even Sunday night when Marlaina asked who the delegates were

> going to be and who was going to nominating committee that same person

> stood up and asked if others would come forward to assume the 
> responsibility as she intended leaving before crutial voting was to 
> take place.
>
> I think what all the things I've mentioned above says to  the ACB 
> membership as a whole is hey look at us we are attempting to be an 
> affiliate, but we are really unorganized and don't take pride in the 
> democratic opportunity we have been given within ACB.
>
> But there are ways to fix this and if you want to hear my constructive

> suggestions read on.
>
> 1.  Resume regular monthly conference calls and do not deviate from 
> the date time and call in number or pass code.
> 2. If inviting a guest speaker be precise in what you wish to have 
> them speak about anhd advertise aggressively and well in advance.
> 3. Some time should be set aside to talk about affiliate business at 
> least once a month even when there are guest speakers. During this 
> time we should actually talk about fundraising and ways to grow our 
> membership as well as forming working committees that actually do 
> something and get reports from their chairs.
> 4. Officers should devote the timenecessary to attend these calls and 
> understand that having this type of leadership position means it is a 
> part of their duties.
>
> In order to accomplish these things we have to start looking at the 
> big picture which goes way beyond the scope of low attendance at 
> conventions.
> Those are my thoughts at the moment. Now don't everyone go throwing 
> rotten tomatoes all a once.  First of all because i like those who are

> involved with this affiliate.  Secondly because I hate even fresh 
> tomatoes.  And finally because all I'm trying to do here is help.  
> Smile.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> To: "Discussion list for ACB human service professionals"
> <acb-hsp at acb.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] Diversity training session at ACB convention
>
>
>> Let's blame it all on GDUI. They seem to have stuff going on all week

>> long, every day, every night. I can't tell you how many people have
> told
>> me that they can't attend a function because it competes with
> something
>> that GDUI is doing.
>> Seriously, one suggestion might be to somehow limit the number of 
>> functions a committee or affiliate can have.  One thing that I have 
>> noticed is that similar groups are starting to have combined 
>> programs, which is a good thing. One thing that small affiliates 
>> struggle with
> is
>> the cost of putting on programs, especially mixers which involved 
>> food and drinks.  In the past, we used to buy supplies such as food 
>> and drinks from a local Costco, or whatever, and bring it into the 
>> suite where the party was being held.  But in the last few years, 
>> this practice has been pretty much forbidden by ACB forcing us to 
>> deal with the hotel, which charges such exorbitant prices.  This 
>> causes you to charge higher ticket prices or to bleed your small 
>> treasury in an attempt to make ticket prices more reasonable.  I 
>> can't believe how
> much
>> it cost HSP to have a party where all that was served was ice tea, 
>> water, and chips. The convention climate is not very friendly to the 
>> little guy. Again, joining with other groups seems like the best
> answer
>> for the time being. We have a year to work on Columbus, and I would
> urge
>> everyone who has an interest in the survival of this group to make 
>> constructive suggestions either on this list, or on the conference 
>> calls, which should start again in August.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of MARILYN LUTTER
>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:16 AM
>> To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
>> Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] Diversity training session at ACB convention
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> when I got back from convention I had hundreds of email messages so I
> am
>> just getting to respond.  I am a human service provider or I should
> say
>> was.
>> I am now retired.
>>
>> I share your concern about why we haven't been able to grow this 
>> affiliate.
>> I was at the convention and had so many conflicts that I couldn't go
> to
>> many of the sessions I would like to have attended.
>>
>> My opinion about the poor attendance at affiliate programs is that
> there
>> are too many things going on at convention.  Most of the sessions and

>> meetings I was able to attend were poorly attended.  I know of one 
>> affiliate who didn't have a quorum for their business meeting.
>>
>> I happened to sit next to Melanie Brunson on my flight home.  I
> mentions
>> my concern about this to her.  She said this was not the first time 
>> anyone had mentioned the problem to her.  Basically she said no one 
>> wants to say no to anyone who wants to be on the program.
>>
>> I know other people who think the schedule is too full.  In the last
> few
>> years, it seems every ACB committee a program at the convention.  I 
>> believe this is a partial reason why so many affiliate programs are 
>> so poorly attended.  I am not sure what the answer is, but maybe some

>> of the rest of you will have some ideas.
>>
>> Marilyn Lutter Original Message -----
>> From: "J.Rayl" <thedogmom63 at frontier.com>
>> To: "Discussion list for ACB human service professionals"
>> <acb-hsp at acb.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 2:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] Diversity training session at ACB convention
>>
>>
>> Again, I agree with all points, Andy.
>> For the life of me, I cannot fathom why ACBHSP continues to be so
> small.
>> And I don't have any real suggestions, other than what I've suggested

>> time and time again, as to how to grow the affiliate.  However, it 
>> just astounds me that with all the human service people out there, 
>> and human
> services
>> is
>> so very broad, the affiliate continues to be so small.
>>
>> Jessie Rayl
>> thedogmom63 at frontier.com
>> www.facebook.com/Eaglewings10
>> www.pathtogrowth.org
>>
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