[acb-hsp] affiliate growth

[Baracco, Andrew W]

People can join more than one affiliate, state, or otherwise.  Charlie
Hodge is from South Dakota, and even when he moved to Virginia, he kept
up his membership in the South Dakota affiliate.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf
Of Darla Rogers
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:45 PM
To: 'Discussion list for ACB human service professionals'
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth

I guess I'll be finding out, as I wish to join the Kansas affiliate
since anyone with blindness or visual impairment is referred to me at
work, and they have a great affiliate and web site, and it is my hope
I'll be allowed to join--whether or not I can represent them--because I
don't know a lot about services for blind people in Kansas.



-----Original Message-----
From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf
Of Darian Slayton Fleming
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 8:57 PM
To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth

In fairness to groups represented by individuals (not by their state) as
in the instance of Idaho having a California person represent them, I
believe people are allowed to be members of affiliates (including
states) if they wish to provide support.  I know this may be the case
for some fo us.  If we pay our dues and attend meetigns ro provide
tangible support to a group, I think this entitels us to represent them
unless their bylaws say otherwise.

Darian


-----Original Message-----
From: Baracco, Andrew W
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 2:06 PM
To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth

I thought that at least you would have to be a member of the group that
you were representing, but I guess that's not the case.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf
Of Donna
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 1:15 PM
To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth

Well, to be honest I think the affiliate delegations this year were a
big joke. it seems that most affiliates didn't know when one member of
their delegation was representing another affiliate and even up until I
thinkit was Thursday morning affiliates were continuously changing their
delegate representation.  I wonder what this looks like to outsiders?
Lol.  Better to laugh then cry.  Smile.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
To: "Discussion list for ACB human service professionals"
<acb-hsp at acb.org>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth


> It was my understanding that Darian and Deanna were both leaving on 
> Wednesday, so unless they were able to find a volunteer, I would 
> imagine that HSP had no presence on the convention floor after that.
> In our defense, I understand that the delegate from Iowa was actually 
> someone from California.  I am getting more and more the impression 
> that this convention was poorly attended in general.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On 
> Behalf Of J.Rayl
> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:16 AM
> To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
> Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth
>
> Well-said, Donna, and I wholehearedly agree with you.  I can tell you,

> after my presentation which I thoroughly enjoyed, I was quite amazed 
> at how quickly people just left the call.  Compared to some friendly 
> interactive conversations of the past, this was quite a surprise and a

> change.
>
> Question: So, was ACB-HSP officially recognized or no this year?
>
> Jessie Rayl
> thedogmom63 at frontier.com
> www.facebook.com/Eaglewings10
> www.pathtogrowth.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Donna" <dwjsk34 at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion list for ACB human service professionals"
> <acb-hsp at acb.org>
> Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2012 11:24 PM
> Subject: [acb-hsp] affiliate growth
>
>
> Hi All,
> I need to put a disclaimer at the beginning of this message because I 
> have some observations to make and I do not want anyone's feelings to

> be hurt by them.  So I warn you in advance that if you want to read 
> some honest thoughts and suggestions and you are willing to put your 
> feelings aside and listen objectively please  continue.  Otherwise 
> there is always the delete key.
>
> Let me state here that I like all the people who are in leadership 
> positions of this affiliate so please understand my words are meant to

> be constructive in nature.
>
> I think the issue we face as an affiliate is much bigger then just the

> convention.  There doesn't seem to be much  commitment  to the 
> organization by those in leadership positions and there is a definite 
> disconnect that has been going on for a long time among members.  When

> we had convference calls once a month members had an opportunity to 
> attend and listen to guest speakers or network with one another.  Now 
> conference calls are every other month and it is unclear as to which 
> Sunday night they actually take place since it seems as though such 
> trivial things as the Superbowl cause those in charge to change the 
> date.  the other thing I have noticed as it relates to conference 
> calls is that there seems to be an urgency for those who are in 
> leadership positions to hang up as soon as possible. It's like they 
> are only there out of obligation and as soon as they can finish their 
> duties they want to leave.  this has happened when we have had outside

> guest speakers and I must say that I was totally embarrassed by their 
> actions.  I was also embarrassed when listening on ACB radio to the 
> convention and during the most important days when it is almost 
> certainly probable that a roll call vote for affiliates would be 
> needed the individual who was  so vocal during the week was not 
> present.  Even Sunday night when Marlaina asked who the delegates were

> going to be and who was going to nominating committee that same person

> stood up and asked if others would come forward to assume the 
> responsibility as she intended leaving before crutial voting was to 
> take place.
>
> I think what all the things I've mentioned above says to  the ACB 
> membership as a whole is hey look at us we are attempting to be an 
> affiliate, but we are really unorganized and don't take pride in the 
> democratic opportunity we have been given within ACB.
>
> But there are ways to fix this and if you want to hear my constructive

> suggestions read on.
>
> 1.  Resume regular monthly conference calls and do not deviate from 
> the date time and call in number or pass code.
> 2. If inviting a guest speaker be precise in what you wish to have 
> them speak about anhd advertise aggressively and well in advance.
> 3. Some time should be set aside to talk about affiliate business at 
> least once a month even when there are guest speakers. During this 
> time we should actually talk about fundraising and ways to grow our 
> membership as well as forming working committees that actually do 
> something and get reports from their chairs.
> 4. Officers should devote the timenecessary to attend these calls and 
> understand that having this type of leadership position means it is a 
> part of their duties.
>
> In order to accomplish these things we have to start looking at the 
> big picture which goes way beyond the scope of low attendance at 
> conventions.
> Those are my thoughts at the moment. Now don't everyone go throwing 
> rotten tomatoes all a once.  First of all because i like those who are

> involved with this affiliate.  Secondly because I hate even fresh 
> tomatoes.  And finally because all I'm trying to do here is help.
> Smile.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> To: "Discussion list for ACB human service professionals"
> <acb-hsp at acb.org>
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 1:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] Diversity training session at ACB convention
>
>
>> Let's blame it all on GDUI. They seem to have stuff going on all week

>> long, every day, every night. I can't tell you how many people have
> told
>> me that they can't attend a function because it competes with
> something
>> that GDUI is doing.
>> Seriously, one suggestion might be to somehow limit the number of 
>> functions a committee or affiliate can have.  One thing that I have 
>> noticed is that similar groups are starting to have combined 
>> programs, which is a good thing. One thing that small affiliates 
>> struggle with
> is
>> the cost of putting on programs, especially mixers which involved 
>> food and drinks.  In the past, we used to buy supplies such as food 
>> and drinks from a local Costco, or whatever, and bring it into the 
>> suite where the party was being held.  But in the last few years, 
>> this practice has been pretty much forbidden by ACB forcing us to 
>> deal with the hotel, which charges such exorbitant prices.  This 
>> causes you to charge higher ticket prices or to bleed your small 
>> treasury in an attempt to make ticket prices more reasonable.  I 
>> can't believe how
> much
>> it cost HSP to have a party where all that was served was ice tea, 
>> water, and chips. The convention climate is not very friendly to the 
>> little guy. Again, joining with other groups seems like the best
> answer
>> for the time being. We have a year to work on Columbus, and I would
> urge
>> everyone who has an interest in the survival of this group to make 
>> constructive suggestions either on this list, or on the conference 
>> calls, which should start again in August.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On
> Behalf
>> Of MARILYN LUTTER
>> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 10:16 AM
>> To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
>> Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] Diversity training session at ACB convention
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> when I got back from convention I had hundreds of email messages so I
> am
>> just getting to respond.  I am a human service provider or I should
> say
>> was.
>> I am now retired.
>>
>> I share your concern about why we haven't been able to grow this 
>> affiliate.
>> I was at the convention and had so many conflicts that I couldn't go
> to
>> many of the sessions I would like to have attended.
>>
>> My opinion about the poor attendance at affiliate programs is that
> there
>> are too many things going on at convention.  Most of the sessions and

>> meetings I was able to attend were poorly attended.  I know of one 
>> affiliate who didn't have a quorum for their business meeting.
>>
>> I happened to sit next to Melanie Brunson on my flight home.  I
> mentions
>> my concern about this to her.  She said this was not the first time 
>> anyone had mentioned the problem to her.  Basically she said no one 
>> wants to say no to anyone who wants to be on the program.
>>
>> I know other people who think the schedule is too full.  In the last
> few
>> years, it seems every ACB committee a program at the convention.  I 
>> believe this is a partial reason why so many affiliate programs are 
>> so poorly attended.  I am not sure what the answer is, but maybe some

>> of the rest of you will have some ideas.
>>
>> Marilyn Lutter Original Message -----
>> From: "J.Rayl" <thedogmom63 at frontier.com>
>> To: "Discussion list for ACB human service professionals"
>> <acb-hsp at acb.org>
>> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 2:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] Diversity training session at ACB convention
>>
>>
>> Again, I agree with all points, Andy.
>> For the life of me, I cannot fathom why ACBHSP continues to be so
> small.
>> And I don't have any real suggestions, other than what I've suggested

>> time and time again, as to how to grow the affiliate.  However, it 
>> just astounds me that with all the human service people out there, 
>> and human
> services
>> is
>> so very broad, the affiliate continues to be so small.
>>
>> Jessie Rayl
>> thedogmom63 at frontier.com
>> www.facebook.com/Eaglewings10
>> www.pathtogrowth.org
>>
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