[acb-hsp] When Bullies Go to Work

[MARILYN LUTTER]

After reading all the comments on this subject I think I encountered a 
couple of bullies during my career.

The first was the director of a camp I worked at during the summer between 
my junior and senior years of college.  Don't ask me why I decided to go 
back the next summer.  When I applied the next year I learned that the 
former director would not be coming back.  They hired someone new who was 
not a bully.  I worked there two summers under his direction.  It was great 
and I was glad the former director would not be returning.  I probably would 
not have returned if she did.

I encountered another bully during my second year MSW program.  I couldn't 
do anything that satisfied her  and I nearly was "counseled out" of school 
because of her.  Of course, I didn't realize these people were bullies back 
then.  I was too unsophisticated.

Marilyn Lutter
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From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
To: "Discussion list for ACB human service professionals" <acb-hsp at acb.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] When Bullies Go to Work


My wife always says, “Go to the union”. The thing that many do not realize 
is that there are many ways that supervisors can get retribution, and they 
can get away with it.  This is why what whistle blower legislation that has 
existed to this day has been so ineffective.  There was a news story the 
other day about the American soldier who committed mass murder in 
Afghanistan.  It was said that he “might” be tried for murder.  What’s this 
“might”?



Andy





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J.Rayl
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] When Bullies Go to Work



That is very often what happens when people go to HR, or to Union--whomever 
is supposed to assist with these matters.  Unless one is fortunate--as did 
someone on this list --to work for a very strong and support HR or Union or 
whatever it may be called--as you so stated, crap runs downhill, and so 
sometimes, the situation becomes all the worse.  It did in my situation 
because HR was being bullied too--by the same wonderful director that I was. 
I guess when one thinks about it, it makes sense--after all, if its the 
Director doing or allowing the bullying, well, HR isn't going to be of much 
help.  Or, if the bully is friends with whomever is supposed to be 
supporting you against the bully, its not going to help much either.



Jessie Rayl
thedogmom63 at frontier.com
www.facebook.com/Eaglewings10
www.pathtogrowth.org

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From: Kevin LaRose <mailto:kevin at night-light.org>

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Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 1:34 PM

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I've always been hesitant to call what happened to me in the workplace 
bullying, because there was nothing really physical about it. I was a 
federal employee, and in the federal workplace, it's always seemed to me 
that, to clean up an often-used phrase, crap runs downhill. Fear and 
intimidation are seen by many as valid motivational tools, and that's true 
probably in any workplace. Nonetheless, I was subject to a lot of both in 
varying degrees of severity, and when I went to the union for assistance it 
got much worse. Sadly, the supervisor/employee dynamic lends itself very 
easily to bullying, particularly that of the psychological kind.

KL



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