[acb-hsp] Suicide Protocols for emails, was Re: Impossibilities of hope and self-esteem

[Sharon]

A funny story about suicide in this regard. I got a suicide call once and
dialed the star 69 to get the number. But what I forgot was that the
answering service had called me after the suicidal individual, so I gave the
police the last number which was the number of the answering service. So the
police went to the answering service and tried to break down the door. The
answering service thanked me when I tried to apologize by saying it was the
most fun and excitement they'd had there in years.
Sharon

-----Original Message-----
From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf Of
J.Rayl
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:52 AM
To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
Subject: [acb-hsp] Suicide Protocols for emails,was Re: Impossibilities of
hope and self-esteem

Okay.  If you all are so concerned someone is suicidal, I hardly think 
continuing to write about it on list is saving him now.
For the record, the protocol for suicide intervention / farewell checks is:
1.
Saving all the headers on an email, you contact the recipients ISP (in other

words, if it were from me, you'd call Frontier).
2.
You explain to Frontier that you have received an email from me which has 
you very concerned that I am suicidal, and you would like them to notify the

local authorities to do a welfare check.
They will, then, tell you precisely how to forward that entire email to 
them, keeping extended headers intact.
They will, then, also give you further instructions which will, likely, 
include contacting the local police (in my case, it would be where I live).
(Some will ask you to contact the Police, some will not because they will 
not release further information of any kind to you and you'll be left hoping

their security folks follow through.)

You will, then, contact the local Police, forward them the email in its 
entirety, and you will have done your job.
You will, then, not continue to discuss the issue or person on list.
You may attempt to contact the person off list, (until or unless they 
specificly ask you not to do so)  however, and it is certainly preferrable 
to so prior to contacting the authorities, or at any time during that 
process.
I've done this a couple of times--but not often--generally in my work as a 
crisis worker, not because of an email of this kind.
However, this is the protocol.

Hope that is of some help.


Jessie Rayl
thedogmom63 at frontier.com
www.facebook.com/Eaglewings10
www.pathtogrowth.org

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Altschul" <paltschul at centurytel.net>
To: "'Discussion list for ACB human service professionals'" 
<acb-hsp at acb.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] Impossibilities of hope and self-esteem


Thanks; I shared your concern but, to my discredit, did nothing about it.

Peace, Peter



-----Original Message-----
From: acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org [mailto:acb-hsp-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf Of
Karen Rose
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:08 PM
To: Discussion list for ACB human service professionals
Subject: Re: [acb-hsp] Impossibilities of hope and self-esteem

Hi Peter. I am writing off list at least I think so. I located Peter W's
email at least I think I got it right and send my message to Jim as well as
to the list. When I saw his message last night I was very concerned that
this might be essentially a suicide note or perhaps that he had relapsed
into his alcoholism. Not sure of any of this but I was so concerned that I
stayed up an extra hour or so to make it my computer it finally work LOL and
then find his direct email. Karen

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 6, 2013, at 6:57 PM, "Peter Altschul" <paltschul at centurytel.net>
wrote:

> Hi:
>
> Something's puzzling me.
>
> While Peter's frustration is palpable and sad, and we all identify with it
> (I know I do), he did say he was unsubscribing.  So, why have those who
have
> posted since his last email assume he's still on the list?
>
> Best, peter
>
>
>
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