[bscb-l] How do you navigate the green line with the noisy fans?

[Frank Ventura]

Alice, yes I believe this is an issue with any below ground Green Line
station. It is really not a concern with the Orange, Blue or Red lines
as you can't get on the wrong train. I fully understand the issue of not
being able to identify one green line train from another. If I had a
magic wand what I would do is put a clanging bell system that would
activate when a green line train platforms. It would clang a specific
number of times that would correspond to which train was platformed. For
example if a C train was platformed it would go clang, clang, clang ...
pause ... clang, clang, clang, etc. A b train would be clang, clang, ...
pause ... clang clang. Yo get the idea. As far as the noise level of
certain items in the transit system, remember we're not the only
disabled folks out there. If a buzzer at a gate or card reader is loud
that is because there are some of us who are hearing impaired. Only
someone who thinks their disability is better than that of others would
have an issue with this. 
Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: bscb-l-bounces at acb.org [mailto:bscb-l-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf
Of alice dampman humel
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:46 AM
To: Bay state (Massachusetts) discussion list
Subject: Re: [bscb-l] How do you navigate the green line with the noisy
fans?

Nina and all,
    It's not only Boylsten and Park: Government Center, comes to mind
and other lines as well. The fans are really, really loud, they are
placed so that at least at my height, they are blasting that horrible
hot air right in your face, so that aspect is disorienting as well.

    Deafening, painfully high levels of ambient noise are a problem on
the T in general. I've been complaining to the T about this for years,
and no one listens. It is indeed a safety concern, because one can not
hear other sounds, and one can not tell where sounds are coming from.
Sounds like the bonking and snarling of the automatic gates when a card
is either accepted or rejected that are so loud that they literally hurt
one's ears and also startle one, distracting one's attention, are also
dangerous both in the short and the long run.
    Although this is not really a safety concern, the noise of the AC on
the busses  also interferes with travel as well as being really
unpleasant: yesterday, I was on a bus that, unbeknownst to me, had
another bus following it. The bus behind indicated to the driver of my
bus that he should bypass a stop. 
However, I had pressed the "next stop requested" button, and the driver
claims that, with all the noise on the bus, he did not hear the "stop
requested" bonk and announcement. I heard it, but he did not, so I
missed my stop. This is not a route on which I could have simply gotten
off at the next stop and walked back: 
it's one of those complicated situations I won't bore you with, but it
really was a major foul-up.
    The noise in the T throughout the system is an enormous problem, and
I really wish they would do something about it.
    I have considered getting perhaps an audiologist or some similar
professional to accompany me to my top 10 noisiest stations on the T and
measuring the decibell levels, and if they are found to be injurious to
the ear, filing a suit against the T or somehow or other filing an
official complaint of some sort that would er, ah, encourage them to do
something about this.
    Again, in all the subway systems I've lived with, including New
York's with its own brand of loudness, Boston ranks as the worst in
terms of noise: major sensory overload, distraction, danger, actual pain
to the "normal" ear, and general discomfort.
Alice
Alice
alicedh at verizon.net
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nina Kagan" <nina at littlebreezes.com>
To: <bscb-l at acb.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 8:31 PM
Subject: [bscb-l] How do you navigate the green line with the noisy
fans?


Do others feel that the Boylston Street and Park Street subway stations
are extremely noisy and difficult to hear the train announcements?  In
the warm weather with the fans it is almost impossible to discriminate
between the different trains .  How do you hear the announcements if you
are not in the front of the station and not near the fans?  This is a
safety concern of mine and I want toknow if there is anything that BSCS
can do to alert the transportation board of this concern.



All th Best,

Nina Kagane




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