[bscb-l] How do you navigate the green line with the noisy fans?

[Nina Kagan]

That is true Nora as I have seen some sighted people say to me they can
not understand the announcements and they have to run up to the front of
the car to see the letter on the front of the car which is dangerous in
a crowded situation such as when the Red sox are in town or when another
event is occurring at the Hynes Convention center.

Nina d 

-----Original Message-----
From: bscb-l-bounces at acb.org [mailto:bscb-l-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf
Of Nora Nagle
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 9:55 PM
To: a.strazzullo at comcast.net; Bay state (Massachusetts) discussion list
Cc: Bay state (Massachusetts) discussion list
Subject: Re: [bscb-l] How do you navigate the green line with the noisy
fans?

Just tp clarify, people who can see do NOT depend on announcements to
determine what line a green limne train is serving. The green line
trains all have panels on the outside, similar to those on buses, that
indicate the train's line and destination. 

Nora

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On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:35 PM, "Annmarie Strazzullo"
<a.strazzullo at comcast.net> wrote:

> People who can see depend on the announcements as well.  I don't think
blind people paying for the T is going to make a bit of difference in
whether trains pulling up to the right spot, announcements being made
loudly, etc. happen  
> 
> 
> Annmarie  
> *** 
> Music is a healing force all living spirits sing.--Joanna Shenandoah
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bscb-l-bounces at acb.org [mailto:bscb-l-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf
Of Frank Ventura
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 6:28 PM
> To: Bay state (Massachusetts) discussion list
> Subject: Re: [bscb-l] How do you navigate the green line with the
noisy fans?
> 
> Allison, while I think most sensible folks may agree with us having to
> pay our fare sgare since life isn't a free ride that really wasn't
what
> the OP was speaking about. The OP was talking about not being able to
> identify one green line train from another. That is a very simple,
> conside problem and it begs a solution that may or may not require
> additional funding. We don't know that yet since we don't know what a
> potential solution would be.
> Frank
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bscb-l-bounces at acb.org [mailto:bscb-l-bounces at acb.org] On Behalf
> Of Alison
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 11:10 PM
> To: Bay state (Massachusetts) discussion list
> Subject: Re: [bscb-l] How do you navigate the green line with the
noisy
> fans?
> 
> ...and they also still pull up the trains wherever they want (often
not
> in the right place) at Park Street and they don't always announce when
> they're doing this, so it's very easy to get on the wrong westbound
> green line train at park street even if there are no fans running. And
> all of the MBTA buses and trains still only announce stops
sporadically,
> so you can't rely on the announcements the way you should anyway.
> 
> The MBTA's accommodations for visually impaired people are just for
> show--they're not consistently available enough to be reliable.  But
as
> long as blind people insist on paying absolutely nothing to ride the
> MBTA (even though all other disabled people do have to pay at least
> something), then we cannot expect any better from the MBTA because how
> are they going to pay to fix the problem of stop announcements if
we're
> not willing to contribute even fifteen cents per ride?  
> 
> The MBTA needs money very badly because their budget is being raided
> every year to pay for the Big Dig, etc.  We need to stop just
> complaining and start contributing.  Why can't BSCB make a donation to
> the MBTA?  We have plenty of money and the MBTA is a very valuable
> service for many of our members.
> 
> --Alison
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nina Kagan <nina at littlebreezes.com>
> To: bscb-l at acb.org
> Sent: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 00:31:53 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: [bscb-l] How do you navigate the green line with the noisy
> fans?
> 
> Do others feel that the Boylston Street and Park Street subway
stations
> are extremely noisy and difficult to hear the train announcements?  In
> the warm weather with the fans it is almost impossible to discriminate
> between the different trains .  How do you hear the announcements if
you
> are not in the front of the station and not near the fans?  This is a
> safety concern of mine and I want toknow if there is anything that
BSCS
> can do to alert the transportation board of this concern.
> 
> 
> 
> All th Best,
> 
> Nina Kagane
> 
> 
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