[nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and Windows Eyes 7

Anmol Bhatia anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 24 02:06:58 GMT 2010 

Ashley,
What I am complaining is the afordability of adaptive technology and equipment for blind person. Basically what the point I am making is two things:
1. recently the President and Congress enacted a tax legislation which basically gives everyone some sort off a tax brake, but there was included to give some sort of a tax brake for blind individuals for perchase of such things as adaptive technology.
2. I am trying to understand how a person who needs such things as a jaws upgrade but can not aford it and is not working in order to perchase it and ride it off on taxes.
3. I would like to see 100 percent tax ride off for the purchase of adaptive technology and equipment directly related to one's disability regardless of if it is for work, education or just to live a more independent life.
4. Finally I would like to see funds available for blind individuals to purchase things as adaptive technology and equipment.
Basically I would like to see some debate and see some action from advocacy organizations such as the ACB to make adaptive technology and or any tools used by blind individuals to live a independent and successful life be made afordable to average blind person living on fixed or limited income.

Anmol
I seldom think about my limitations, and they never make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
Hellen Keller


--- On Thu, 12/23/10, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and Windows Eyes 7
> To: "Discussion list for NABS, National Alliance of Blind Students." <nabs at acb.org>
> Date: Thursday, December 23, 2010, 10:46 AM
> Anmol,
> Isn't the answer obvious?  If
> you don't make enough to pay taxes, then you cannot deduct
> anything from your taxes.  What are you complaining
> for?
> Be a tax paying citizen before you complain about the tax
> structure; and as Sarah said you can deduct as a business
> expense.
> I paid taxes when I was an intern in the federal
> government; but as I haven't paid much as a full time
> working adult I can't speak much for deductions.  But
> I'm sure another blind person paying taxes or a accountant
> can help with those tax questions when the time comes.
> When I was at the rehab center they showed us  some
> tax stuff.  I'm pretty sure you can get a copy of the
> tax forms in braille; of course you can't fill them out, but
> you can see what the form looks like.
> 
> Ashley
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anmol Bhatia" <anmolpbhatia at yahoo.com>
> To: "National Alliance of Blind Students.Discussion list
> for NABS" <nabs at acb.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2010 1:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and Windows
> Eyes 7
> 
> 
> > 
> > Ok but what if I m not making anything or enough to
> pay any taxes? So the first two percent or 7.5 percent as
> medical expense is not available for tax ride off?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anmol
> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
> make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at
> times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
> > Hellen Keller
> > 
> > --- On Thu, 12/23/10, Sarah Clark <goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: Sarah Clark <goldflash9 at sbcglobal.net>
> > Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and
> Windows Eyes 7
> > To: "Discussion list for NABS, National Alliance of
> Blind Students." <nabs at acb.org>
> > Date: Thursday, December 23, 2010, 12:10 AM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Anmol,
> > I don't know the details of the new tax legislation
> that was just passed, but based on the most recent laws that
> have been in use, you can deduct expenses like adaptive
> technology either as a medical expense or a business
> (employment) expense. The medical deduction though would
> normally not be the best option because you can only deduct
> those expenses once they exceed 7.5% of your income. If you
> deduct as an employment expense, you're able to deduct those
> expenses that exceed 2% of your income.
> > 
> > Sarah
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Anmol Bhatia
> > To: National Alliance of Blind Students.Discussion
> list for NABS
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 7:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and
> Windows Eyes 7
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > What are some of the options to ride off the perchase
> of adaptive technology such as a Jaws upgrade on my taxes? I
> was talking to someone and it
> > surprised me when he said pretty much the only way for
> me to ride it off on my taxes would be to say it is for
> employment. When thinking about all the goodies that pretty
> everyone mostly the rich got in the last tax agreement
> reached between the President and Congress it really
> irritates me that know goodies were included for people with
> disabilities. Personally if you ask me any adaptive
> technology or product perchased due to one's disability
> should be a tax ride off. Just my oppinion and excuse my
> rants.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anmol
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
> make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at
> times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
> > Hellen Keller
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 12/22/10, Rhonda Partain <partain319 at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > From: Rhonda Partain <partain319 at bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and
> Windows Eyes 7
> > To: "'Discussion list for NABS, National Alliance of
> Blind Students.'" <nabs at acb.org>
> > Date: Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 8:38 PM
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> > Perhaps, Fs is thinking rehab will once again purchase
> their product for me. Keeping a sma current would be the
> best option. Wish I had thought of that before.
> > 
> > Rhonda
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: nabs-bounces at acb.org
> [mailto:nabs-bounces at acb.org]
> On Behalf Of Anmol Bhatia
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 4:28 AM
> > To: National Alliance of Blind Students.Discussion
> list for NABS
> > Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and
> Windows Eyes 7
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > That is correct Rhonda.
> > 
> > 
> > I am in the same situation. I have a Jaws 8.0 and in
> order to upgrade I will need to pay $550. I just can not
> except having to pay that right now. Freedom Scientific must
> think that blind people are rich or something, but it is
> simply not afordable to majority of blind people. However,
> we almost need it it. If one wants to get a upgrade I would
> strongly recommend paying extra $200 for the SMA so that the
> next three releases will be free and my advice would to
> maintain the SMA. Just my thoughts.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Anmol
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I seldom think about my limitations, and they never
> make me sad. Perhaps there is just a touch of yearning at
> times; but it is vague, like a breeze among flowers.
> > Hellen Keller
> > 
> > --- On Tue, 12/21/10, Rhonda Partain <partain319 at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: Rhonda Partain <partain319 at bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and
> Windows Eyes 7
> > To: "'Discussion list for NABS, National Alliance of
> Blind Students.'" <nabs at acb.org>
> > Date: Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 3:36 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, they asked me for my serial number and confirmed
> my name and address and then quoted me that price.
> > 
> > Rhonda
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: nabs-bounces at acb.org
> [mailto:nabs-bounces at acb.org]
> On Behalf Of webmaster Christopher Wright
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:45 PM
> > To: Discussion list for NABS, National Alliance of
> Blind Students.
> > Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and
> Windows Eyes 7
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Is that what there Sales Department told you?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > 
> > From: Rhonda Partain
> > 
> > 
> > To: 'Discussion list for NABS,National Alliance of
> Blind Students.'
> > 
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:20 PM
> > 
> > 
> > Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and
> Windows Eyes 7
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have Jaws 8, so the upgrade price is 500 and
> some…..not actually in my price range now. Fs doesn’t
> offer a payment plan like Gwmicro does.
> > 
> > I guess most purchases are made by government agencies
> and the like.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for your thoughts.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Rhonda
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From: http://us.mc538.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nabs-bounces@acb.org
> [mailto:nabs-bounces at acb.org]
> On Behalf Of webmaster Christopher Wright
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 12:45 PM
> > To: Discussion list for NABS, National Alliance of
> Blind Students.
> > Subject: Re: [nabs] difference between Jaws 12 and
> Windows Eyes 7
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> > Hi Rhonda,
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> > If you're concern is the cost, you might want to call
> Freedom Scientific and find out, financially speaking, what
> your options are. You might also want to visit http://www.fsactivate.com/ and press enter on the
> Continue Product Activation button.
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